Amy Holmes, MD, Autism Treatment Center,Baton Rouge, La   Her clinic treats over 300 autistic kids

 

http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#wethink

 

Metal-Metabolism and Autism:  Defective Functioning of Metallothionein Protein, Amy Holmes, MD;  http://www.healing-arts.org/children/metal-metabolism.htm

 (note: see end of file for a clinic with a chelation protocol that may to be even more successful than Dr. Holmes)

the bad news is that there is a huge increase in childhood conditions like autism and ADD. the good news is that autism is really looking like a neurotoxic problem, with all the other biochemical problems secondary to the presence of the toxins. This is good news because

this is something we have a chance of fixing. And it appears that, if you can get these toxins out at a reasonably early age, the child can be "indistinguishable from his peers". Mercury looks like it is usually the biggest problem, but, it doesn't look like most cases are purely mercury and mercury alone. There are some other heavy metals that play a big part, both by themselves and by (horrors of all horrors) potentiating the toxicity of mercury. For example antimony is almost always extremely high, with arsenic, lead, cadmium sometimes high, and we are also finding solvents like hexane or xylene or organochlorines or such as benzene to be sometimes high.

I think just about all the kids today are getting pretty high exposures to various toxins. The main ones that are having major problems are those with defective or immature detox systems in the

liver, although the exposure to mercury is certainly higher today than it has ever been in infancy before. 6 to 8 vaccines containing thimerosal in the first year alone - the first on the 1st or 2nd day out of the womb. This is a relatively recent development (last 10 years), and I think this fact alone accounts for the epidemic of autism seen in the last 10 years.

So far, I have gotten hair tests from 110 autistic children - all but one fit the counting rule for mercury/metals toxicity- that you diagnose mercury toxicity based on a large number of essential mineral levels being abnormal.. The essential elements are widely scattered all over the place. I also have some hair tests from "normal" people - about 10 total. The most interesting comes from a 25 year-old woman with no amalgams ever. Her essential elements are right around the mean. We got her hair just because of her amalgam- free status. She was not a patient.

Amy Holmes

 

[protocol: Dr. Holmes stated the following: Step 1: DMSA 1 mg / lb. every 3 to 4 hours

Step 2: DMSA .5 mg / lb and ALA .25 mg / lb both simultaneously every 3 to 4 hours.

As for supplementation, it very important to do.]

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We have a little over 300 autistic kids in the practice. I am at home, so I don't have any of the charts handy, but I will give it a try giving you the most typical picture I see:

1. Hair (Toxic Metals)

very high antimony - almost universal

high aluminum

high arsenic

high-normal to high cadmium

high-normal to high lead

slightly high mercury



the others are not consistently high or normal or low.



Here's an example (I have a couple I brought home to go over the

results prior to seeing the parents back)

5 y/o WM

Hair - Doctor's Data (ref range - 68th pctile in parentheses)

aluminum 11 (<8)

antimony 1.506 (<0.066)

arsenic 0.16 (<0.08)

beryllium <0.01 (<0.02)

bismuth 0.48 (<0.13)

cadmium 0.077 (<0.15)

lead 1.12 (<1)

mercury 0.43 (<0.4)

titanium 1.3 (<1)



the others were OK



We have just started testing kids in the beginning of treatment with urine toxic elements (Doctor's Data). We cannot get a 24-hour urine on most, so we get an 8-hour urine, and have to base our decisions on mcg/g creatinine instead of mcg/24-hours. We do a challenge test with DMSA, low-dose for 2 days, collect the urine on day 2. So far, almost all the tests fall into the same ranges - mercury is coming out in large amounts along with other metals.



Here is an example - not the same child, unfortunately.

6 y/o WM

aluminum 10 (0 - 35)

antimony .4 (0 - 5) - DMSA does not pull antimony out well at all

arsenic 154 (0 - 100)

bismuth 3.7 (0 - 30)

cadmium 5 (0 - 2)

lead 31 (0 - 15)

mercury 28 (0 - 3)

nickel 12 (0 - 12)

... the rest are low, so I won't list them



Consistent findings:

1. elevated MCH and MCHC (without anemia)

2. elevated total IgE

3. high intracellular calcium, low zinc, selenium, magnesium

4. other trace minerals either low or on very low side of normal

(except potassium and copper) - this persists even with

supplementation.

5. Inability to fully break down gluten and casein (high casomorphins

and gliadinomorphins on urine test) - ? inhibition of DPP IV



Well, the list goes on and on and on.



And, you are right. Most of us DAN! types think ADHD/ADD are on the same spectrum as autism, just affected to a lesser degree.



That is a good question about the pyrroles, and I don't know much about them. I know they are present in elevated amounts in urine in schizophrenics and people with autism, and those that have elevated values waste B6 and zinc in their urine. Woody McGinnis is the expert on this matter.



I am very aware of the UF report on the effect on peptides being a major factor in autism . BTW, I did my internship and residency at UF, so I have a big fond spot in my heart for anyone who is affiliated with UF. Robert Cade is a pioneer in this area and I have a lot of respect for him and his work.



Bernie, this whole mercury thing has put autism into a new light. I think that, finally, we may be able to offer some good safe treatment to these kids with a reasonable hope of some

normalization if they are treated early. Amy



Bernie Rimland.(ARI director) The conversation (of course) eventually turned to mercury. He asked me if I thought all autistic children with no identifiable syndromes were all mercury-poisoned. I told him that I thought they were, at least based on my testing of about 200 autistic children so far. There was a long silence on the other end, and then he said that he had reviewed a lot of the data himself, and had come to exactly the same conclusion.

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>>It appears that there is no difference in children "born" autistic and those who were developing normally and then had a regression. The only real difference may be the timing of the poisoning and maybe some individual susceptibility.

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(Amy became interested in treatment of austistic kids when her son became autistic)

I can tell you what I did to my son:

1. had 21 amalgam fillings in my mouth while I was pregnant

2. ate tuna at least 3 times a week while pregnant

3. use thimerosal-containing contact lens solution while pregnant.

4. he got all vaccines "on time", all the ones that could have possibly contained mercury did contain it. >>Amy

my son Mike - DOB 10/18/94

> Unremarkable pregnancy. Born by planned C-section (advanced maternal age and very large baby). Weight 9 pounds, 2 oz. Very healthy.

> Apgars 8/9. Uneventful first year. Got all immunizations on time.

> Sat at 4 months, crawled at 7 months, walked at 10 months. Spoke first word at 9 months.

By 12 months, had 10 to 15 words. Good eye contact, good imitative skills, very social.

> Stopped talking 5 days after MMR plus Hep B at 12 months, gradually lost all imitative skills, all interaction and eye contact.

>By 18 months was in his own world. Would not even respond to his name. We asked everyone why he was acting this way, including several pediatricians - no answers. Finally diagnosed as autistic at 26 months.

> We began an intensive ABA program (Lovaas) at 28 months. We took him to see Dr. Stephanie Cave at 29 months. She ran a number of tests, including hair analysis for heavy metals. He was very high in lead, aluminum, and antimony. Mercury was only slightly

elevated. She gave him DMSA 100 three times a day for 5 days, followed by 100 mg twice a day for 2 weeks (the old treatment).

> By 1 month after this first chelation course, he had improved noticeably - behavior was better, no longer as "zoned out" as before, was no longer pale, looked healthier. Repeated the

> hair analysis several months later. This showed a significant drop in lead, but still high antimony and aluminum, and to our surprise, a high level of mercury. No one knew what this meant at the time -

> this subsequent high level of mercury meant that mercury had been mobilized back into the bloodstream, thus could finally show up in the hair. Looking back, if we had realized the significance of this finding then, Mike would be completely recoved now.

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> After this, we pursued other areas like getting rid of yeast and pathogenic bacteria, gluten and casein-free diet, getting rid of multiple food allergies, and did not return to the heavy metal

> issue until he was 4 years old. By this time, I had taken over his case. I repeated a hair analysis for heavy metals when he was 4. Mercury had dropped (of course - it had gone back into its favorite storage areas), but aluminum and antimony were still very, very high, and the lead was back up to elevated range.

> I started him on a kinder, gentler course using DMSA 200 mg TID for 3 days, off for 11 days while repleting minerals. I repeated this 2 week cycle for a total of 4 cycles, then got a toxic urine screen on the last cycle. To my surprise, tons of mercury were coming out.

> That is when I started investigating mercury-autism connection in Mike's case. After a few weeks, I was convinced that mercury was responsible for a lot of his problems, so we continued with the same 2 week cycles of DMSA for several more months, repeated the urine toxic metal screen with almost the same findings. From April of 1999 to the present, I have been doing these 2 week cycles, 4 to 6 at a time, then allowing him a month off now and then to fully recover from the chelation. We got a urine toxic metal screen last month (4/00) which showed mercury at 2.7 ("normal" range 0 - 3). This is the first time he has ever been in the "normal"

range for mercury (provocative urine).

>

> One year ago, Mike was essentially non-verbal and preferred to engage in meaningless self-stimulatory behaviors. Today (5/00), he speaks in sentences, addresses people by name to get their attention, and no longer "stims" non-stop. His receptive language is excellent, expressive is still 2 years behind his peers (but is catching up fast). His pronunciation, which had been so bad as to make any words completely unintelligible, is now improving to

the point that we can understand almost everything he says.

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And as far as my son goes, I have no neurologic or behavioral evidence left in him to suggest that mercury is still a significant problem for him - he is talking, answering questions, carrying on conversations. His strabismus is gone. His bilateral Babinski sign are now gone. He no longer walks on his toes. I could go on and on, but the bottom line is that I used DMSA every 8 hours, 3 days "on" and 11 days "off" and he is not the same horribly impaired child that he was even a year ago.

> I intend to continue chelation until no more mercury comes out on provocative urine toxic metal screen.

> Hope this helps,> Amy Holmes <aholmesmd@pol.net> DAN MD

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I have obtained almost 110 hair analyses now on autistic kids. So far,

ALL (amazing) display the highly scattered (all over the place)

essential elements. What I am not finding is elevated hair calcium -

in fact, most have VERY LOW hair calcium. The ones with the lowest hair calcium are the ones with vastly elevated levels of other heavy metals, especially antimony, aluminum, and arsenic.

I have almost 25 hair tests from "normal" people. Most have no amalgams

at all - only one has the "scattered pattern". 20 of the hair tests are

from children who are NT - none of these show the "scattered" pattern.

The one scattered pattern I have from a normal person is from an adult

with a mounthful of amalgams. As far as anyone can tell, he has no overt symptoms or signs of heavy metal toxicity.





Another thing I am finding consistently is evidence of uncoupling

of oxidative phosphorylation from the Krebs cycle - almost 100%

across the board - another mercury effect.



Amy



There was a lot of anecdotal evidence presented - for instance, the one that really stuck with me. Four year-old girl with really bad autism. The "before" videotape was hard to watch - she was in therapy (and had been doing a good ABA program for about a year). The only program she had progressed in over the last year was simple imitative skills ("Do This"), and she hadn't progressed very far in this one. She screamed non-stop whenever she was awake, and this was most of the time since she rarely slept. Various and

sundry tests to determine metal loads, toxicity, and levels of other non-metal toxins. Lots of metals, xylene, hexane. Many, many biochemical impairments. She was started on a pretty intensive detox for all the things that were found. The metals were addressed with DMSA mostly. (The aluminum, antimony were handled separately). Plus other things for the xylene and hexane and whatever the other things were (sorry, can't remember exactly what the others were). Two "after" videos were shown. The first was 1 year later. Again

in ABA - but what a different picture. Advanced program this time, reading social stories and asking and answering questions about them, advanced conversation drills, well, you get the picture. The last video was 2 years later - she was in a regular 1st grade (no aide), completely normal in her interactions with others, no impairment in language. Amazing. I think that is what we all want. Amy



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I do believe we are looking at a multi-facated problem with autism and yes,

mercury can be a big part, but other parts exists and combine to make the

whole. We have seen big improvement in both of our boys so I know we are on

the right track and I appreciate all the efforts on this list as we travel

down the road together. Sharon Howell Baton Rouge, LA showell10@aol.com

( mom to Mike AS 12 and Brian ADHD 8 & proud patients of Dr.Amy Holmes)

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I believe that my son would have had more severe autistic symptoms if he had not weighed nearly 11 lbs. Instead of that "chicken" look, he had visible fat on his arms as a newborn. Given all the mercury he and I both had churning around our bodies, (Rhogam, root canal, Hepatitis-B) I think his high birthweight diluted the effects somewhat. Looking back, he had behavioral

regressions after each mercury vaccine, and the effects do seem cumulative. BTW, John was the only baby I delivered naturally, without being induced. My others weighed 7 and 9 lbs.

Kathy "Liam E McCarthy" <liamm@idt.net>

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I think your facts are correct regarding rhogam and the connection to autism. I had rhogam shots with all three pregnancies. All of my children are positive and I'm negative. I also had an

extra rhogam with my third child (the one with autism) right after amniocentesis (sp). I believe my youngest child got the full load of mercury from all the shots I was given.

"Joyce MacFarlane" <joycemacfarlane@home.com>

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Vaccines kill. The following chiIdren suffered a severe reaction to a routine DPT (diphtheria. pertussis, tetanus), MMR (measles, mumps. rubella), or OPV (oral polio) vaccine. They are only a few of the thousands of children who have died or been left with medication resistant seizure disorders, mental retardation, physical handicaps, learning disabilities or other chronic illnesses after a reaction to a routine vaccination.

Chris - Christopher died 21 hours after receiving his 1st DPT & OPV vaccinations at two months of age.

Ashley - Within 72 hours of her 4th DPT and OPV and HIB Ashley was hospitalized with kidney failure and encephalitis. Because of these vaccinations Ashley is severely mentally and physically handicapped.

Richell - Within 10 hours of 3rd DPT and OPV Richell suffered a grand mal seizure. She is now severely mentally and physically handicapped.

Kimber - Within 3 hours of 1st DPT and OPV Kimberly suffered 103 degree fever, high pitched screaming and convulsions. Kimberlie died 2 years later.

Josh - Within 6 hours of 3rd DPT and OPV, at an age of 6 months, Josh suffered high pitched screaming, a 101 degree fever followed by a one hour grand mal seizure. Josh is moderate to severely mentally retarded and severely language delayed.

Anna - Within 2 days of her 1st MMR at an age of 15 months Anna began limping. Within 6 weeks she was totally paralyzed. At age 3 Anna could not walk independently or talk and was severely handicapped and language delayed.

Matthew - Within 26 hours of 1st DPT and OPV and after projectile vomiting, staring, and behavior change Matthew died.

Sean - Within 3 hours of 3rd DPT and OPV at 8 months old Sean suffered swelling, high pitched screaming, projectile vomiting, diarrhea, and behavior change. Sean has learning disability with severe motor damage.

"kevysmom04"

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Hi, My son Daniel recieved the Hep B shot 2 days after he was born( and I know that his immune system had to be weak due to an infection I had right before labor and a severe

reaction I had to pennicilin(sp?)while in labor. Anyway, after that he hit all his mile

stones a little on the late side but still on the charts. And he was connected to us, said a

few words(bye bye, dada, baba)all at 1 year of age.

A few months later he recieved the MMR, 2nd Hep B, Dpt, and Polio. He had a slight fever nothing much, and slept for what I thought was an eternity, always very tierd for about 2

weeks. And then he woke up, boy did he wake up, he SCREAMED every minute of the

day for about another 2 weeks, and he began head banging, he was so angry. And then he stopped, and I mean stopped. No more talking no more connection, no more eating(very picky) and no to very little eye contact. It was at this time he withdrew not only from



me but from the world. Do I believe it had something to do with the vaccines??YES!! Lindy

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My son regressed into autism almost immediately after MMR (15-18 months) However, he began improving around age 3...regained some speech ( about 6 words)

At age 4 1/2, he got a TETANUS shot...he regressed horribly, spent the next 6-8 months spinning, running, howling with a repetitive voice pattern almost constantly. I had to get out of the house or lose my mind! He has not spoken a word since then, except for one night when he had a high fever, when he spoke a 5 word sentence. (the only one in his life) He now

"tries" to say words (thanks to ABA). I believe that the Tetanus shot did further damage to

my son. Mary Holcomb <gotojoshua1_9@yahoo.com>

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From: "Jennifer Rochester" <rochester@clarinda.heartland.net>



My daughter had MMR, DPT, Hib, Hep b, and Opv, all on the same day ; She had a high fever that night, and regressed over the next two weeks. In these two weeks, she lost all language, screamed a piercing scream constantly, started head banging, started losing weight, etc, etc, etc.

Of course, this is all anecdotal, so it must not have really happened :-) Well, most of my friends have had their kids be vaccinated in the same manner, so it seems to be pretty 'normal'.

For us, I refused to get her vaccinated unless she was in real good health (geez, at least I knew THAT much - too bad it wasn't enough though ) so we were 'a little behind' . They decided to catch her up all at once. I asked many times if they were sure it would be ok. Something in my gut kept screaming 'NO - DON'T DO IT!!!!!' but the doctor kept saying it would be fine, and

then started getting really nasty and threatened calling CPS if we didn't do it all that day.

I gave in to his bullying. GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jennifer

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I have been stunned to look at my child's medical records from his first year of

life. ANTIBIOTICS COMBINED WITH VACCINES DID A NUMBER ON MY CHILD..... I

WISH THAT I WOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON. Take a look at this

and tell me if you think my child stood a chance of surviving this

"onslought" of medical interventions without any harm:

> Born 2/15/96

> Dr. visit about THRUSH 2/20/96

> Dr. visit for Hep B shot 3/19/96

> Dr. Visit for additional vaccines4/16/96

> Dr. visit Ill (not sure if antibiotics were given or not) 5/27/96

> Dr. visit for vaccines 6/25/96

> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/3/96

> Dr. visit for ear infection Antibiotic prescribed 7/20/96

> Dr. visit Ill (not sure about prescription) 9/23/96

> Dr. visit for vaccines 10/8/96

> Dr. visit Ill(not sure about prescripttion)

>4/10/97 Hospitalized with Rotavirus and RSV

> 4/22/97 still recovering from Rotavirus 8 vaccines in one day

4/26/97 EAR INFECTION/ ANTIBIOTIC!

5/19/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

8/4/97 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC (NO DX IN RECORD, BUT THERE WAS A

RECHECK OF THE EAR IN SEPT)

1/28/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

3/18/98 EAR INFECTION/ANTIBIOTIC

4/98 VENTILATION TUBE



Does anyone else see a pattern here??? I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COUNTLESS CHILDREN HAVE THIS SAME HISTORY? BY THE WAY, MY CHILD USED TO INTERACT AND TALK AND MAKE EYE CONTACT...

KELLY LEIGH Kelly l Meyer <recovering2@juno.com>

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Vaccines were defintely a factor in my children developing autism. I have three children,
ages 7, 4 and 2. My two older ones developed autism somewhere after 18 months after developing typically. My 2 year old has never been vaccinated and is continuing to develop normally. Tina in Barrie, Ontario tinaszenasi@hotmail.com

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I know you have no background on my 4 year old son. He had developed normally. Near his first birthday, he had had an allergic reaction to a sulfomide (sp?) antibiotic (treatment for an ear infection), was put on another antibiotic, developed a high fever, was then hospitalized for rotavirus. We cancelled his MMR the following month, and it was rescheduled for the next month. He was back to his old self playing with his sister, happy, talking, but still had diarrhea. The Doctor assured us that they could still give the needle as he had no fever nor infection (toddler diarrhea??). Well...Within a week of his MMR/Hep B stabbing, he essentially looked like he had a stroke. He could no longer climb stairs, eat with a spoon, talk. He developed persistent, copious diarrhea (which would continue for 18 months until gf/cf diet). He was, however, still social and had eye contact. After his DPT/MMR booster 5 months later, he developed a blistering rash, lost eye contact, developed poor sleeping habits, woke in pain, screamed and jumped incessantly. "Picasso" <ldrich@fundy.net>

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Regarding the constant ear infections after vaccinations, with the exception of the Rotovirus, my son's history is pretty much the same as yours and most of those being discussed. He had constant ear infections since 4 months of age, three sets of tubes, antibiotics since age 4 months to age 3 - pretty constant - all the vaccines in between - 8 vaccines on one day like yours. It absolutely makes me sick to think of how ignorant I was and we cannot go back in time. What's

worse is how ignorant the doctors are.Cheryl Lmart96834@aol.com

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The history of your child does sound very similar to me. My twins

had over 35 ear infections/antibiotic treatments APIECE between the

ages of 1 and 6. It would be next to impossible to exclude them from

vaccines and antibiotic use at the same time; however, they didn't

even try. So now they are autistic and PDD. yanosky5@aol.com

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From: ckcarlson@earthlink.net

I noticed you listed the shots your daughter received in one day. My grandson received the DPT, Hib, HepB, and OPV at 2 months. He had a severe reaction of high pitch crying, fever, jerking that I believe were convulsions, glazed eyes, the doctor didn't seemed surprised or

concerned, except to say they would give DT, IPV instead of the dpt and opv from then on. That gave us a false sense of security (safety). My daughter has told me he had similar behavior each time. He was late getting his last round of shots (20 months) and at that time received the DPT, Hib, HepB, IPV, MMR, and Variciela! Shortly after this (weeks) his unusual behavior started, and he lost the speech he had acquired, so forth. But I will say there were subtle signs before this that something wasn't right. Squinting in sunlight, stiffening when being held as an infant, that made me think he might be having seizures; diareah that blistered his bottom. The pediatrician was condescending and said he was normal, not to worry. I do believe he was damaged by vaccines and probably the mercury. He was diagnosed with severe autism a year ago, he recently turned four. There is slight improvement in eye contact, answering to his name,

some words come and go, but are few, since we started the GFCF diet. Haven't been able to get to a doctor that can help yet due to the cost of the tests and so forth. I know this is long. What gets me about

the mandatory vaccinations, is that here in Texas you sign a form

saying you are volunarily giving your child the shots, and it even

says you request it! And yet the CPS can get involved if you don't

want them? How can Americans stand for this, and especially when

they are killing some infants, and maiming others. God help us!

Cathy

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That is the same scenario with my son. He received 4 vaccines in one day on

three different occasions! No wonder he's autistic.

Kris "Al and Kris Asker" <aka@micron.net>

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My son's symptoms developed after vaccinations at 15 months. The killer to me is that we continued to dutifully vaccinate him even after he was clearly symptomatic. What's worse is that although his symptoms (sensory hypersensitivity, vestibular and proprioceptive

dysfunction, lability, GI problems, respiratory problems etc. ) were worst from about 18 months to 3 1/2 years old he began to make enormous progress with GF/CF diet and vitamin and amino acid supplementation. Unfortunately when he turned 4, he had multiple boosters on the same day and we saw an immediate, sharp decline. I could scream for allowing the doctor to give

> him those shots. It kills me that even then she didn't question the wisdom of giving him more shots!! Pat Gallagher <patgallagher@earthlink.net>

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Subject: Re: Hep-B poll

I also blame the Hep b shot as an addition to the program, even starting at 2 months. I have 4 kids. Jack received his hep b at 2,4 and 6 months. My 2 girls before Jack did not get hep b until

after 2 yrs old. My youngest Luke received the hep b at 2, 5 and 9 months and he has the mushy stool like Jack. I did not give Luke any other immunizations. Hep b before 6 months is not a good idea. Interesting note: My father-in-law trains and breeds guide dogs for the blind. The owners are not allowed to give the dogs more than one immunization at a time because, in the past the dogs developed health problems. They also get homeopathic immune boosting meds before and after shots. *****

new info: I started my son on ALA alone just to see if it would do any thing, every three hours. I was prepared to stop if I saw any bad reaction. Jack did have some increase in chewing and increase in hyperactivity, I think the chewing may be his stimming. This is his only continuous odd behavior. After the three days he got his "T" sound and "w" sound with some other pluses, truly amazing. After 11 days, we did another round. He got his "j" sound and was happier.

Convinced this was working, I found a doctor to prescribe the DMSA to use with the ALA. There was no real side effect with the two together. He was calmer. With each round I see some type of plus. Alot of gross and fine motor skills are increasing. *************

new info: What I think is so amazing is every cycle of chelation I see improvement in motor planning. Two cycles ago, Jack started putting his plate into the sink when finish eating, w/o being asked. This cycle he started standing on the arm of my couch and doing a slow

front summy onto the couch. I can't wait until the speech motor planning improves. It is, but

not quick enough for me. Marianne marib005@hotmail.com





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My son received the hep. B vaccine at birth. He screamed and screamed for weeks. We then gave him all vaccines on scedule, each time he would scream for days and days. His recent DPT booster is what had me do research and I personally am allergic to thimerosal and that's when I found out that there was thimerosal in vaccines. He regressed in behavior and communication after the DPT, still not back to where he was but at least he isn't screaming my head my

head my head anymore...poor little guy...makes me angry. Donna

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I fully immunized my first two children and they have PDD. I partially
immunized my third child and he had ADHD. I have not immunized my fourth
child and (so far) he is perfectly normal. I realize that this doesn't prove
anything to the scientists out there, but I am not taking the chance when I
see what it can do in my family. "Bergenholtz Family" <bergfam@dmv.com>

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The reason the question was posed was...at a support group meeting, I just

happened to mention I thought it odd that my autistic son did get Hep B...and my

5 other NT kids didn't. FOUR OTHER MOTHERS all responded by saying that the

same was true for them! I guess that was the first time, in 5 years, I have found 5 parents agree on any one given thing! Victoria fullarmor@aol.com

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That is our experience as well. Basicly our first 2 kids didn't get Hep B because it wasn't

recommended in 1987 and 1989. They have no symptoms of autism whatsoever. Our third child who has autism received it at her first well baby check up at 9 days old, and then at 1 month and at 6 months, along with the rest of the recommended shots.

Joe Marciano CentreAv2C@Aol.com

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My NT daughter, who is 18 months older than my son, did not receive HepB.

Her brother, who has autism, did. He received his shots at 1 day, 2 months

(with DPT), and 13 months (with MMR). -- Linda

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Yup , My older son didn't get Hep B and he is fine... My younger one did and you know the rest of the story.. Was it the only factor ? Maybe not, but I think he was damaged especially by Hep B.. kelly From: kc62765@aol.com

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Isaak was given the Hep B at 12 hours old. He's diagnosed autistic. Lukas was given the Hep B at 15 months and began to regress shortly thereafter. His diagnosis was autism as well. My third child, Ezekiel, is vaccine free and wonderfully typical!

Charlene Charlene Pagac <bluesclues@softhome.net>

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My son got hep-B vaccine at 1 day old. He could barely open his eyes and remained sensitive to sunlight after that. (He also developed a terrible case of chronic eczema and colic which never went away until age 2 and a half when he went GFCF.) I think he regressed a little after every

subsequent vaccine, particularly the chicken pox at age two.

"krs111" <krs111@telocity.com>

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I have found out that my son and his twin sister received DTP vaccines that had such a high number of reactions, that they were ordered no longer to be used. (Thank you Linda.)

The lot manufacturer and lot #s were

Connaught OC-21045, Connaught 2A-41127,

Connaught 2E-41060, Connaught 2M-31091

Number of adverse reactions: 228 101 ER visits... 3 life threatening 20 hospitalizations

2 disabled 20 unknown recoveries 8 no recoveries 6 deaths

My children received the 2M-31091

The other 4 DTP's they got had reactions of 37,44,87,60. As Linda commented, and I also wonder, It seems that it may be very important to gather information on the lot #.

Must have had high mercury in that one.

Mary Holcomb <gotojoshua1_9@yahoo.com>

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I have no insight into the problem of all of the kids who wake up in the morning or from naps screaming or crying uncontrollably or trembling, but when my son was small he would

wake up as a toddler SCREAMING inconsolably also. When my son was an infant he would sometimes wake with his EYE COMPLETELY swollen, not both when we wake that way, only one, and it was huge. Pediatrician always said it was nothing. Just PDD.

Crystal "Crystal Sacco" <c.sacco@snet.net>

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From: fullarmor@aol.com

My name is Victoria. My son, Caleb was dx with autism on May 29,

1996. We began his in-home ABA program by July of 1996 and it continues to

this day. He is now 6 years old. He was progressing beautifully -- with

additional help from AIT in 1998 -- and was to be placed in a regular

Kindergarten with a shadow. He received his boosters for Kindergarten May 5,

1999 and we entered into our second greatest nightmare. He screamed for the

entire summer -- all the way into November. He lost over 1 1/2 years worth

of hard-earned skills (including toileting, reading, etc)

We just got his hair analysis back. He was toxically high in aluminum, cadmium, lead,

nickel, tin and copper. He was dangerously low in magnesium, zinc, sodium,

iodine, phosporous and borderline in calcium and one other element (can't

remember which). The mercury was within reference range (4.0), but of course

IT'S THERE, it just didn't show up through his hair analysis. He has all the

other markers of mercury poisoning...and of course the behavioral symptoms.

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fullarmor@aol.com

Subject: Re: Fw: Poll





My son is 6 years old. He weighs 70 lbs. I am doing every 4 hours - 70mg DMSA only.

Doing night doses using DMSO as a carrier for transdermal application. Schedule 3 on / 4 off

No negative side-effects. Many positives reported from school by 4th round including increased speech, clearer speech, awareness of others, etc. At home, we are noticing increased

awareness and interaction with family. Now on 5th round.

Using minerals (Citramin II - 1X day), zinc and Vit C. No monitoring tests ordered yet.

Victoria

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Since we moved immediately after my son's birth, our pediatrician was a 45-60

min ride and I believed he was trying to spare my wife the repeated long rides

by administering him 4 vaccines at each visit. This occurred 3-4 times. Lets

assume that 3 of the vaccines contained the max amount of thiomersal (25 ug/0.5

ml) and the fourth cotained the lesser amount (12 ug/0.5 ml) according to the

list on your site. Now he is autistic.

Ed decile_edward@chase.com

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My husband has gone oversees quite often, which meant immunizations galore.

I had a booster shot MMR 1 month before marriage, my son was conceived soon

after our marriage. We both have a mouthful of poisin, I was exposed to

malathion which contains mercury salts in my childhood and while carrying my

children with autism....you tell me? Then my kids have vaccines, one almost

died 11 days after, acted blind, unconsollable, shaking violentely,

convulsing. The other, classic gastro problems (I thought I was doing the

right thing by not giving her pertussis, the one we thought affected my

oldest). Great heh?

Kathy Blanco kblanco@mindspring.com

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My nephew, age 9, who has (high functioning) autism had an immediate reaction to the (2nd) DPT vaccine. He screamed inconsolably for several days and nights, became aphasic for a year (after having normally developing speech), lost social skills and receptive communication skills, developed hypersensitive hearing and some tactile issues, among other things. A book called A Shot in the Dark talks about the DPT vaccine and children who have had adverse reactions including several who developed autism after having developed normally until the DPT or a booster. I'm convinced my nephew's autism resulted from the DPT.

Linda

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From: "Gretchen Heinrich" <gheinrich@fuse.net>

Looking again at Alan's records. On his 6 month visit to the doctor he received the

following: poliovirus #3, DTP #3 , Hib #3 , Hep B #3

He had 9 vaccines containing thimerasol by the time he was 6 months

(counting these)



A month later he had a horrible respiratory virus and then came all

the antibiotics , ear infections, and autism.

I am amazed that doctor's are told to give this many shots at a time!

Gretchen

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My son's first adverse reaction was to the Hep B, Hib shots he got at 8 months. Getting

very sick after only 2 shots tells me that one or both of them are trouble.

Hib was also on the list of shots he got at 13.5 months which led to

more catastrophe than I will mention here - autism to be brief.

Catherine adamsgrl@netscape.net

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"Donna Carver" <sdcarv@bright.net>

I am a nurse and mommy to 3 children. My 5 yo is Autistic...after a recent DPT booster (until this happened I poo pooed the idea that vaccines and autism had a link) my son started screaming and screaming...(hours later) he regressed terribly. It wasn't until this booster that I investigated and found out that the vaccines had thimerisol. I am allergic to thimerisol.

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I had 5 amalgams placed in the first trimester. Breastfed also. Son had sensory issues at birth. He received HepB at birth. Looking back it seems he may have developed more sensory

issues with each vaccination but the MMR threw him into a tail spin. I feel without a doubt that amalgam played a huge role and the vacs just added to the cumulative effect. The gut was damaged by the mercury/yeast and then the MMR somehow affected his brain. He developed full blown lympho nodular hyperplasia within 3-4 months of his MMR. "Darla" <hacodaki@cs.com>

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I know that the first DPT that Kenny got in Dec. 1993 came from a bad lot.

Another little boy who is two weeks older also got that shot and also suffers

from autism. Here's what happened to Kenny: (This was two weeks after he arrived from Korea)



Dec. 17: Took him to pediatrician for first time (6 1/2 months old) Doctor

remarked on what a big, beautiful, HEALTHY baby he was. (He had been born at 32

weeks gestation in Korea -- he weighed 5 lbs at birth though!) He got the shot

that day.

Dec. 23: He started wheezing. Took him back to doctor, they gave him a

breathing treatment, put him on ventolin, told me it looked like he had croup.

Dec. 23 (midnight): Took him to ER because none of the methods they told us for

helping him breathe were helping. He was gasping for breath, had a temp over 103.

He received a shot of epinephrine, and they sent us home.

Dec. 25: My mom noticed while she was holding him that his heart was racing.

We couldn't even count his pulse rate it was so fast. High fever. (Back to the hospital)

Dec. 27: Small pin-point rash began to appear on his body

Dec. 31: Rash had spread over him from head to toe. Took him back to the doctor. Doctor

had "never seen anything like it". Discovered he also had 2 ear infections.

Then came the MMR/DPaT/OPV the following August... I didn't think the doctor would vaccinate that day because he'd had 13 dirty diapers the day before. When I specifically said, "You're not going to give him his shots today are you?" , the answer was, "It's probably just teething. It will be fine." Of course, we already knew at this point that he was allergic to

eggs, and had been told we'd have to wait for two hours after the shot to make sure he didn't have an adverse reaction, because the MMR is egg-based. On day 6 after the vaccine (notice the similarity in time frames here?) he woke up at 5AM with a blood curdling shriek. We rushed into his room. He had a temp of 104.6 I took him back into the doctor 3 more times in the following week because he was lethargic, crying, not himself. He's not been himself since then... Cindy (Cary, NC) persistentC@bigfoot.com

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Urine Toxic Elements Test Results (Sept. 15, 2000)

(per gram of creatinine)



Arsenic 71 (0 - 100) down from 120 one month before

Cadmium 1.4 (0 - 2) down from 2.6

Lead 5.3 (0 - 15) UP from 1.5

Mercury 3.3 (0 - 3) UP from 2

Nickel 3.8 ( 0 - 12) down from 5.1

Tin 1.6 (0 - 6) UP from 1.1

Tungsten .1 (0 - 23) down from .3



We are seeing wonderful progress after just a month of chelation.

We are finishing up a week of chelation with Kenny today. (Our 6th ON

cycle -- 11 weeks into treatment.) Here are some new accomplishments/changes:

1) Kenny will now wear mittens and sunglasses (and by wear, I mean, he

actually KEEPS them on!)

2) He continues to be very happy and focused. He's "tuned in" a much

larger percentage of the time than he has ever been before.

3) Both his speech therapist and occupational therapist remarked this

week on what a sense of pride he is taking in his accomplishments.

4) He is "picking up" skills faster. Seems to finally be making a real effort to imitate.

5) He is progressing nicely with his articulation. Today I asked him during therapy "What do you do with a cookie?" and he said "eat it!" (Pretty good for a kid who was pretty much non-verbal just a few weeks ago!)

Cindy

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My 7 yo son (born 5/26/93) was non-verbal when we began chelating at the beginning of August, 2000. Now he has MANY phrases and even some sentences. He can sing the alphabet song, count to 10, answer all sorts of questions ... His eye contact is better, he is more interested in us,

he is more playful, more affectionate ...

Cindy (Cary, NC)

persistentC@bigfoot.com

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I wanted to post an update on Kenny's progress...

We are now on our 3rd cycle of phase II. (Protocol information at the bottom of this post.)



I was pretty alarmed at the beginning of phase II, as I was observing a return of behaviors that we hadn't seen since before phase I. However, ONCE AGAIN, on the third cycle, just as we saw in phase I, there has been a significant change for the better. Kenny seems calmer again, and his articulation, which seemed to be deteriorating, has gotten much better. He is attempting lots of new words (remember, this is a child who was non-verbal before chelation) and they are actually understandable when he says them. I just finished doing one of his two daily 30-minute articulation drills with him, and was amazed at some of the sounds that came out.

Motor planning is also improving. He is actually putting his shoulder belt on in the car without help now. This is quite an accomplishment -- dealing with a retractable belt is really quite tough for a child with dyspraxia. Eye contact is still not as good as it had gotten. We are seeing a lot more covering of his eyes as if he is getting some sort of visual stimulation that is overwhelming to him.

We are also seeing a LOT of "rash" (for lack of a better term) on his face and bottom, and more eczema type problems on the rest of his body. His face is quite red on his cheeks and splotchy looking, and there are some well defined pimples that come and go usually in the span of a day.

We have started giving him Kava around 6PM in the evening. This does seem to help with sleep. We had previously tried melatonin, which was a disaster for Kenny -- sleep issues were MUCH worse. He is still having some occasional outbursts of crying, which seem to occur right before the next dosing of ALA/DMSA. It could be that we need to switch to a 3-hour protocol during the day, as it does seem to occur within the last 30 minutes of the 4-hour cycle.

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Kenny received time-released DMSA with a 7 On/7 off protocol. He was 7 yrs, 2 months when we started at the beginning of August, 2000, and non-verbal. By Christmas (less than 5 months later), he had stopped stimming, had improved greatly in the area of sociability, and HE WAS

TALKING!! The process of detox was not always fun, but it certainly was effective.

Cindy (Cary, NC) persistentC@nc.rr.com http://www.rtphome.org/mariposa/



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Background chelation info:

Treating doctor: Dr. Amy Holmes Treatment began: Last week of July 2000

Age at time treatment began: 7 years, 2 months

Protocol Used:

Phase I:DMSA-SR (slow release) 100mg, 3 times a day, with 7 on / 7 off cycle

Phase II: Began January 2001 with 8 hour dosing on first cycle. Switched to 4 hour dosing due to negative side effects. Ratio of DMSA:ALA 4:1 3 days on/ 11 days off

Toxic Metals being excreted (as measured in urine by Doctors Data Inc.)

Arsenic, Cadmium, Lead, Mercury, Nickel, Tin, Tungsten

Cindy (Cary, NC) persistentC@bigfoot.com

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A hot lot is a batch of vaccine that has been associated with large numbers of reports including hospitalizations, injuries and deaths.

My son got the chicken pox from his older brother when he was 8 months old..He got his 6 month immunizations just about a week before his brother's chicken pox. So he had Hib (with mercury), DTP (with more mercury), OPV, and chicken pox exposure all at the same time. Actually it was at that point that his immune system went haywire. After that he was allergic to EVERYTHING. All of the foods that he had ever eaten. Everything in the air.

For the next two years he was sick constantly. Other than constant sickness, he

developed normally.

Then he got a hot lot DTaP at 4 years old and his problems started.

After the shot, he regressed and was diagnosed with atypical autism two

months later. The DPT vaccine that he got in August 1995 was listed in

the CURRENT DPT VACCINE "HOT LOT" LIST published by NVIC in

their newsletter in March 1995. My son was given a known (if only to

the NVIC) hot lot vaccine about two weeks after Roseola (HHV6).

In hair, my son on the spectrum was high for tin, lead, arsenic, silver, aluminum,

cadmium, and titanium. The only two toxic elements tested that were not high were

mercury and antimony. His first urine toxic from DD was high for arsenic, mercury,

and tin. It also showed significant amounts of lead, cadmium, and nickel. The

arsenic is now within the reference range, but the tin and mercury at last testing

were still above the rr. My other son's hair analysis showed high aluminum,

antimony, uranium, silver, arsenic, and titanium. He is also borderline for lead and

tin. It also showed overall impaired mineral transport with many highs and lows.

His zinc level is 88 (rr 100-190), his copper level is 38 (rr 8-16), and his Zn/Cu

ratio is 2.34 (rr 4-20). Colin and Evan are high copper low zinc kids.

Evan has/had eye problems, growth problems, muscle weakness, fatigue, social

avoidance, irritability, recurrent infections, giardia, and other problems that are

common in kids with ASDs. All of his problems have gotten better esp. muscle

weakness, irritability, and fatigue. Now most people would never suspect that he has

autism. He is now talkative and friendly, but it will take more time to catch-up on

all of the subtle social skills that the other kids have mastered from the ages of 4

to 9. My son is 9 and he regressed at 4. He was diagnosed with atypical autism.

My son's tin was 180 (0-6). He also has frequent headaches and fatigue

(both are much better after 4 months of chelation). He also has really started

growing--he gained 6 pounds since the end of March. Prior to zinc supplements and

chelation it took him over two and a half years to gain 6 pounds.

Allison Plant <aplant@gte.net>

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I've just looked into my son's medical records from age 1 month to 36 months. I also just received the "Master list of lot numbers" from the DPT vaccine Report by VAERS. Here are the comparisons regarding my son, Adam (DOB: 8/5/1990 & PDD NOS) (currently chelating)

I made a timeline of all of his doctor visits from 1 month to 24 months. Everytime he had vaccinations (sometimes as many as 4 in 1 visit) he would soon thereafter have a terrible ear infection and receive amoxil, - or 1 time, ceclor or pediazole) . By the time he was 18 months, he had received amoxil 8 times.

I also looked up his DPT vaccinations on the charts. WELL, wouldn't you know it........my son's 4 DPT's were from lots that had many many adverse Events reported. His Lederle DPT at 9 months was 293-950 which has 348 events reported and 8 deaths for the general lot 293 (it even was discussed in the "investigative report on the Vaccine adverse events reporting system") . (Is this why at 11 months, he couldn't stand to hear the fireworks - and cried non-stop??? or was that a mercury reaction???)

Also, his DPT at 18 months, by Connaught Labs: had 3 deaths reported and the list goes on to summarize that Connaught Labs has the most deaths and most adverse events connected to their DPT type vaccinations! (Is this why my son regressed into autism at 19 months, stopping speech, throwing terrible tantrums and pulling away from everyone???) I also tried to correlate his symptoms with mercury toxicity symptoms: seeing difficulty with sucking at 3 months (1 month after his DPT of 2 months), an aversion to being held by strangers at 9 months, this sound sensitivity at 11 months and a very bad diaper rash at 18 months. Basically, after 18 months, almost all the symptoms of mercury toxicity (per Bernard's report) came out getting worse from 2-4. For your information, VAERS shows that 4 lots in particular are very bad:

OC-21045 given 1986 to 1992 with 13 deaths

2A-41127 given 1992 - 1993 with 11 deaths

2E-41060 given 1992 - 1994 with 12 deaths

2M-31091 given 92 - 93 with 6 deaths

Of course these lots, too, have many many "events" reported by parents. Just what have the manufactures done to followup on what was wrong with these lots that caused so many adverse effects on kids? Have they checked the autistic and PDD NOS kids of Brick to determine which lots they received????? I'm sure they haven't. Government officials did not even take a blood sample from the Brick children. How about a DDI hair elements test on the Brick children. Just what would they find??? Why aren't the organizations that have brain tissue samples from autistic children testing for Mercury toxicity in these samples????

Linda Aly fata@gte.net

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I think that the lot numbers of various vaccines may contain different

amounts of thimerisol. My belief has stemmed from the fact that I know two

other boys born at the same hospital during the same week who are also

diagnosed with PDD-NOS. My son and my friends' son (both born July 3, 1996)

share 5 of the same lot numbers. We have been trying to get the FDA's

attention about this but no luck so far. MLBarbera@aol.com

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My son was completely set back by MMR. I will say though that even though he lost his speech and all eye contact with the MMR, he was already in a state of decline from

previous shots . MMR finished the job. I have books on my children from birth which I wrote in and His decline began at 12 months as he started losing some words that he had previously said. As far as his records go he did not have the MMR at that time . He did have the others DPT, Hep b etc. In fact going over this , Hep b was the last one that would have

correlated in the downslide at the 12 month mark.

. kelly kc62765@aol.com

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My son and another little boy in our town both received the same hot lot on one of the DPTs. They both suffer from autism. The kids are two weeks apart in age.

Cindy (Cary, NC) persistentC@nc.rr.com

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I believe mercury is the source of our son's autism issues. I had 6 amalgam fillings

put in my mouth 1 year prior to getting pregnant with our son, and already had lots. After he was born, I nursed for afew months, then he began getting vaccinations. he received all the

childhood vaccinations. He is not a child who regressed. He developed normally until speech should have appeared, but it did not. He is diagnosed as speech delayed and we are currenly on the gfcf diet, using Dr. Amy's supplements and just started chelating per her protocol. I firmly believe that he was predisposed prior to getting the vaccinations by the mercury he got in utero.

Robbin

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We have an 8 year old son that we are currently chelating, supplementing, and doing the GFCF diet with. We have seen great improvement in his functioning, still a ways to go, but nonetheless improvement! Example--just this weekend, in Boyscouts, at the Pinewood Derby, our son would have sat with his ears covered when the cheers began. (Last year he did just that) This time, he was involved in the cheering, hands held high in the air, yelling at the top of his lungs! We were thrilled!!! We have noticed improvement at school, socially, physically, in every realm! Robbin rwbridger@aol.com

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HealthTalk999@aol.com

. Zack was exposed to mercury before he was born when my wife was exposed at work in a dental office. Neither he nor she has fillings and he didn't have vaccinations. We did not know

about mercury toxicity 5 years ago unfortunately. We were told Zack was

autistic when he was 2. We looked into alot of different treatments but when

I told an old friend of mine who is a doctor he offered to help. His way of

looking at detox is a little different but he says that the mercury is inside

the cell and you have to coax it out slowly or we could hurt Zack. So he

started with electrolytes. we started with that slowly adding it to his food and

then added these trace minerals. After about a month he added this special

fat because he says that the mercury and fats are in the cell together. . The results have been really something. About 2 weeks into the therapy Zack had a big jump in speech and

communication. We are still working with the protocol the doc set up and are

in the second month of treatment. Ben

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My daughter's hair test was done by Great Plains when she was 2. We knew we

were looking at delays, but this was pre-PDD Dx and it was the first time we

cut her hair. Result : Mercury 5.6 with a reference range of 0-2.

-Ed

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> I just got Joshua's Hair annalysis back and he's like a walking toxic

> waste dump. I was thinking some pretty violent thoughts. However, I had

> to remind myself that most of my energy should be going into helping

> Joshua to get well. If (and hopefully WHEN) he recovers, you can bet

> ALOT of people in the medical community are going to be eating some

> humble pie. He's already improving and we haven't even started chelation

> yet. Victoria

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Maria Carlshamre <maria.carlshamre@stockholm.mail.telia.com>

] ALL VACCINES HAVE THIMEROSAL!





The vaccines said not to contain thimerosal do have it anyway, even the MMR.

I've just got it confirmed from SmithKline-Beecham, Pasteur-Merieux, Merck, and the rest of them.

ALL VACCINES HAVE THIMEROSAL because it is part of the manufacturing process just like the NIH man said. Traces only, is what they told me.

....they had lied us all in the face... they had been putting this into our children, pretending not to......

.....and I actually just started crying.......

.....and I looked at Erik who's had a rough time again in pain and I just couldn't help it.

Please Oh God what have they done to my boy? To our children? What have they done?

And they have done it again and again and again...... It has been confirmed that Erik is particularly sensitive to thimerosal. And I can only start to imagine the scope of this tragedy - most definitely the largest iatrogenic scandal in the history of mankind...... and all the children getting so much more than traces of mercury.......



The fight has just begun and now I am utterly convinced,

We will prevail. regards Maria

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We are in the same boat. I just got back results on my daughter and she is

High for Aluminum, Lead, Mercury, Boron and Rubidium. She is deficient in

Calcium and Strontium. I just got back from my Dan Dr. yesterday and he drew

blood for a whole blood(not serum)level for Lead, because the little circle

is only half shaded it could be an external contamination. I will have a phone consult

with him when the results come back and let you know what we will be doing.

Lisa Lelms3@aol.com

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I have a 4 year old son with autism. His last round of vaccines was when he was 16 months old. All in one visit he received the MMR, DPT, oral polio, HIB and chicken pox. I don't even want to think about the amount of mercury that was injected into him. He lapsed into autism soon after. We recently found out that he has a yeast overgrowth problem along with an intolerance to gluten and casein. I am thinking it likely my son is mercury toxic as well since I've found out these vaccines have so much mercury. . It seems like these three conditions coinside according to the research.

Kim Murphy

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I recently saw a 12 year- old autistic child. His hair test from Great Smokies arrived

> before he did. The mercury was very, very high as were lead and cadmium. I was thinking that this child was in such bad shape that he would probably arrive on a stretcher. Then I looked at the date of collection. His mother had sent in his baby hair. It broke my heart. Amy Holmes

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Hello Patricia: Homeopathy and detox are not mutually exclusive. Using

drainage remedies and constitutionals work very well with the gentle detox

of DMSA/natural glutathione precursors/mineral rebalancing/diet

management... These are the tools of a more natural/patient directed

detox...which after 22 years of experience shows me that works..



It doesn't mean by any means that these protocols cannot blend.....

Dr. Deb.

Dr. Deborah Baker

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I have had the great privilege of having parents share their

children's medical records with me for the past 2-1/2 years. My files

are filled with lab data on these children, and I have to say with

only one or two exceptions (and those being children that were not

vaccinated) these children have ALL exhibited deficiencies of

cysteine and glutathione. This is also true of my own son, and his

prior physician informed me at the time we got my son's results that

he sees this in 90% of his autistic patients.

"Ricci " <Wutsername@aol.com>

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From: njpearce@dedset.net.au

Subject: Why would detox be unsuccessful?



I`m new to this list. My 14 year old daughter who has Autism Spectrum

Disorder and seizures was found to have extremely high levels of

mercury through hair analysis from Great Smokies Diagnostic

Laboratory. Despite 12 months of detox comprising of 2 DMPS

injections and 2 courses of DMSA her mercury levels show no change,

in a follow up hair analysis.

Norelle Pearce.



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30 mcg thimerosal mercury in RhoGAM vs. 12.5 from hep.B. RhoGAM is given to mother's who are RH negative.

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The J&J product called RhoGam contains 60 mcg of thimerosal and 30mcg of ethyl mercury. .

I got 3 of these injections, 2 during my pregnany at 14 and 28 weeks and 1 given 12 hrs after delivery while breast feeding. Then my son got 62.5mcg at 2 months and at routine intervals up to a max total of 237.5 the first 18 months of life from vaccines. Its a wonder he didn't turn into a thermometer. He now has autism.

Lyn ps I have more case histories at: http://tlredwood.home.mindspring.com



Thanks Lyn, I think I got two of these shots one before delivery and one after but it may have been three. I will share this info with my friend who also received these

shots and has an autistic child. In the back of her mind she always believed

that the shots may have been a causitive factor. There are just too many

people out there with autistic children who received these shots for it to be

mere coincidence. Gaylen

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If you had any episodes of bleeding during the pregnancy or any invasive

procedures like amnio or CVS sampling, you may have received even more. Lyn



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Just prior to conception of my third child I received an additional MMR

shot (was informed that I was no longer immune). I then received three

RhoGam shots; one in the first trimester, one in the second trimester and one

after birth. Just prior to delivery I developed Bstrep and my daughter was born with a

103 degree fever. She was given IV antibiotics immediately. While on the

antibiotics she was given her Hib shot.

My youngest has been diagnosed with sever PDD nos, sever language delay

(nonverbal), anxiety disorder, and sever mental retardation. She did not

have a fighting chance. Lisa Smith, Philadlephia





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From: "Lyn Redwood" <autism-mercury@mindspring.com>

Subject: Re: ADD versis autism



Something I have found interesting is that another parent at my sons school was telling me about her sons ADD to which I told her of my son's PDD and mercury toxicity. She had a sample of her son's baby hair and sent it off for testing. She also got his vaccine history. He is 12 and had not received HIB or HepB vaccines early on, so his exposure

to mercury was 1/3rd my sons exposure. His hair analysis was almost identical to my son's but at 1/3rd the levels of mercury and aluminum. I do believe it is just a continum with ADD being a lesser exposure than PDD in a susceptable infant. Note too that both are more prevalent in boys, just like mercury toxicity.

Lyn "Lyn Redwood" <autism-mercury@mindspring.com> Moderator- autism list

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Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:16:05 -0700

From: Howard D Bogert <howard78@juno.com>



> I just got my son's hair analysis results and his urine challenge test

> results back.

> His hair showed elevated (above 68th %) on aluminum, arsenic and tin, and

> above 95th% on antimony.

> His essentials were below 16th% on manganese and strontium, above 84% on

> rubidium and zirconium and above 97.5% on sodium and potassium.

>

> His 24 hr urine was from a 50 mg DMSA, 20 mg ALA challenge. He showed

> low levels of quite a few nasties, the most notable being Nickel 14 ug/gm

> creatinine (ref 0-12). Only a little mercury, .4 ug/gm crea. (ref 0-3)

> and a little lead. 1.1 ug (ref 0-15) showed up.

>

We are one month into chelating ours (also 6 weeks into TF). Our boy

has been on an 'upswing' for about 3 weeks now.



I can tell you we've been chelating our 3 yr 9 mo. old for 5 cycles now

with 50 mg DMSA/day broken into 4 doses (we dissolve it in distilled

water and mix into his juice) with 3 days on DMSA, and 4 days off. We

have lots of antioxidants going, milk thistle and on off days lots of

minerals. Our son has shown no signs of hardship at all and we believe

we are seeing gains literally with each day of chelation! Our son weighs

42 lbs. Our first round I did at just 25 mg/day to make sure he didn't

have any wierd reactions. I'm probably going to move him up to 60 or 65

mg. The younger you get that 'caca' out of your boy's brain and body, the

better his recovery potential! My suggestion is to just start out at a real

low dose and observe himcarefully!

I've seen discussion from or case studies from close to 20 cases and everyone's reporting

improvement almost immediately.

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We've been chelating for about three months now and are seeing little

gains with pretty much each cycle! One non-behavioral area that I think

we're seeing most progress is in his digestion. His stools are firmer, darker

and more digested...it seems.

Chris



We've been chelating our 43 lb almost-4 yr old for about 7 weeks with

oral DMSA and LA and he's doing fine. Also it looks like we are on a

new, faster developmental curve already! We started out at a very

conservative dose- just 25 mg DMSA/day and when he didn't do anything

weird, we moved up to 50 and are now at about 70 mg/day and about 40

mg/day of LA. We give the DMSA in 5 divided doses and the LA in 2 (I

know Andy...I'm thinking about increasing it...everythings so darn

controversial- it's very scary as a parent ...)

If you start out really conservatively, do the right supportive

supplementation and observe him carefully, you'll probably be just fine!

Howard D Bogert <howard78@juno.com>

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My daughter has been chelating since Nov.'00. We took her off the

diet May the 5th. By direction of DAN doctor, (Alexis stools are

normal now)and she has done Great. Nothing. It has been a month and

no behaviors, No runny nose, no regression. I am excited. Shopping is

actually fun now. We had been on the diet since '99, and she did lots

better on the diet, but with slip=ups she would always get a runny

nose, become giddy and increase behaviors. I believe that her gut is

healed. Nancy ndow32408@aol.com

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From: "sammm" <touristk@voicenet.com>

I just receivedmy child's (male age 3) hair analysis and I have a few questions. But first

here are some figures....



Toxic elements

aluminum 14.8 range 0-9

antimony 0.541 range 0-0.03

arsenic 0.115 range 0-0.1

cadmium 0.154 range 0-0.15

lead 2.44 range 0-0.5

mercury 0.07 range 0-1

thallium 0.0004 range 0-0.001

tin 0.548 range 0-0.28



nutritional elements

molybdenum 0.127 range0.0300.096

boron 5.21 range 0.15-3

rubidium 0.396 range 0.005-0.04

iodine 2.91 range 0.35-2.5

additional elements

sodium 375 range 8-60

potassium 584.8 range 0.4-30



He tested low in calcium, magnesium, and zinc.



Also, his mercury was low, could this be incorrect in a hair analysis? I

worry about this mainly because he received his hepB vaccine a few hours

after he born at 34 weeks and low birthrate(4.4 lbs). To think they told my

husband he needed this vaccine because there is no cure of hepB, and would

prevent a lifelong disease. Well, so is his autism!

His regression started about one month after mmr.

thanks, Susan K

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Curty's hair test for mercury wasn't very high and doesn't show as high as the other metals and does not even come close to corresponding with what is coming out of him. We both showed the significantly altered essential nutrients you mentioned on earlier testing and are now waiting on new hair test results.

The first few urine test for my son and I didn't show all that high either but his latest ones have been off the chart for mercury and arsenic. If it shows anything, I think it's worth pursuing.

Gaylen SHAKYES@aol.com



By the way, we're making progress --

Mercury is down to 17 ug/g (from 29 last time)

Arsenic is at 110 ug/g (slightly down from last time's 140)

Aluminum is at 13 ug/g (down from 27)

Nickel showed up again after several months of nothing -- now at 6.4 ug/g

With a smattering of other stuff not too high.



We're going to do another hair analysis as soon as his hair grows enough so

it will be interesting to see how it will compare to the others.



ince we started DMSA, his overall sensory sensativities have significantly

decreased so that he is no longer tactile-defensive for the most part, can

now handle and enjoy being in crowds, his language has improved greatly, his

visual abilities are more consistent and greatly improved (he used to have

blind spots and tracking problems), his focus has increased by leaps and

bounds and his auditory processing has improved. He also began enjoying trying new

things and experiencing life more fully. Before, it often took weeks or

months and alot of encouragement to get him to try new things. He's also

enjoying getting out of the house and enjoying events and parties. He was

practically agoraphobic before treatment and could not handle even going to

the grocery store.

Chelation has been big help in the gastrointestinal area. Gone from severe cramps, bloody stool

to mostly normal. More well digested output too :).



Since we started the IV DMPS six months ago, his motor function has really

improved -- his writing going from huge scrawls to mostly normal-sized,

readable printing, finally being able to do cross pattern, improved bilateral

skills, much more muscle strength and his finger dexterity is improved. His

visual function also took a huge leap forward last month but still wavers

some. His auditory processing increased two full year levels but is still

inconsistent on some days. He's struggling to keep his convergence right now

but his tracking is great. His conversational skills have grown with him now

bombarding me with questions. His ability to read and discuss paragraphs is

greatly improved and he's now able to solve math story problems very well

(totally unable to do so before).





Provocative Urine Tests



Chelator DMPS DMPS DMPS DMPS

4/00 3/00 2/00 12/99

Aluminum 13 <dl 17 8.4

Antimony <dl .2 .7 .1

Arsenic 110 240 130 150

Cadmium 1.3 1.1 1 .6

Lead .1 1.9 11 1.2

Mercury 17 31 23 27

Nickel 6.4 8.5 6.9 7.2



HAIR ANALYSIS



6/99 5/98 9/97

Aluminum 18.4 19 5

Antimony 0.05 0.235 0.062

Arsenic 0.104 0.242 0.418

Cadmium 0.045 0.388 0.149

Lead 1.81 3.9 1.4

Mercury 0.83 0.59 0.56

Nickel 0.12 0.47 0.19

Tin 0.13 1.0 0.6





Gaylen

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Curtis started DMSA when he was 6. At the time, hair tests showed elevations

in all of the toxic metals especially lead, arsenic and mercury. The first

doc (Dr. Gerald Ross from the Dallas Environmental Health Center) gave him

150mg two times a day for 21 days. I was a basket case during that time

(could barely sleep) but he did relatively well with it. We saw an

alternating of amazingly wonderful days with alot of worsening of

autistic-like symptoms, hyperactivity, tantrumming, increased frustration,

cloudy headedness and mild violent behavior (strange for my son but the doc

had said he was amazed that we didn't have more violence before with the

amounts of lead showing in his hair test). About halfway through and

afterwards, he made a huge leap in progress in all areas. After a few months

rest, he did one more 21-day round under Dr. Ross' direction and then we

switched to our current doctor (Dr. Glenn Hansen, in Bedford, TX) who

recommended a more conservative approach -- only 100mg twice a day 3 days on,

11 days off. We did four rounds of that with a month or so between each.

This protocol was much easier on Curtis. He did extraordinarily well when on

the DMSA, then did well for about 5-7 days then would experience a worsening

of symptoms as more metals were dumped into his bloo